Is Barack Obama the Messiah? Part One

"... a light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany ... and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for Obama" - Barack Obama Lebanon, New Hampshire.
January 7, 2008

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It's a funny thing about cults, members never know they are in one even as they are repeatedly warned that they are.

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Jacob Weisberg in Men's Vogue wrote:

http://www.mensvogue.com/business/politi cs/feature/articles/2006/09/11/barack_ob ama

Not long ago at a Hollywood fundraiser,

"When Morgan Freeman comes over to greet Obama, the senator begins bowing down both hands in worship. `This guy was president before I was,' says Obama, referring to Freeman's turn in Deep Impact and, clearly, getting a little ahead of his own bio. Next, a nod to Bruce Almighty: `This guy was God before I was.'"

Hmmm..

Over a year ago 'Slate' started up the "The Obama Messiah Watch", a periodic feature considering evidence that Obama is the son of God.

Timothy Noah kicked it off this way:

Is Barack Obama--junior U.S. senator from Illinois, best-selling author, Harvard Law Review editor, Men's Vogue cover model, and "exploratory" presidential candidate--the second coming of our Savior and our Redeemer, Prince of Peace and King of Kings, Jesus Christ? His press coverage suggests we can't dismiss this possibility out of hand. I therefore inaugurate the Obama Messiah Watch, which will periodically highlight gratuitously adoring biographical details that appear in newspaper, television, and magazine profiles of this otherworldly presence in our midst.

Now there is an entire website dedicated to prove to you that Obama IS the Messiah.{or close enough for government work}

And some say that Irony died on 9/11

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www.obamamessiah.blogspot.com

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One of the weirder examples of "Obamacrats as holy followers /Cultists" was when Stevie Wonder had that Obama crowd in Los Angeles at the oprah/Opama/Kennedy-fest singing "Ba-a-rack O-ba-a-ma" in the style of one of those eerie monk chanting CDs that became popular a while back.

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But in the land of "All Things Obama", that was nothing.  Of course we all have heard about how Obama aides are instructed to talk  to voters abut their "coming to Obama" moment and not policy points. We've seen the footage of the Obama supporters who when asked why they support Obama can't answer with any specifics and are mute until they  - go all  slogan-y about "hope" and "bunnies" or some such...

But hey! Who needs specifics, when you've got BAM!?

{Non-Obamacrats prepare to get creeped out.  Obamacrats prepare too get all weepy}

This is what much of the Obama 'movement' is all about...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/dis cuss/duboard.ph...

I recieved this email from someone on the listserv at Charleston for Obama...and with his permission I am posting it here. I have attended 7 Obama rallies here in SC and this email captured the feeling I have had at each and every rally. It is something beautiful and something BIG....Pass it on. :)

THE BAM"... PASS IT ON AT THE NEXT OBAMA RALLY!

Having caught "Obama fever" like so many others rallying in support of Barack, I experienced something at a Barack Obama Rally  which I felt was both inspirational and spontaneous!

As Barack worked the line following the close of his speech, there was a surge of people moving forward hoping to get close enough to shake Barack's hand. Since I was standing about 20 feet back from center stage in the crowd, I felt the crowd down front tighten as many of us stood on our toes, stretched our bodies forward while reaching out to Barack. I noticed that a six foot tall guy who was standing in front of me had stretched far enough above the crowd and shook hands with Barack. As the guy drew back his hand I asked him, "You shook his hand didn't you?" Happily the guy said "Yes." I then said, "give me some of that" and the guy shook my hand with the same hand he had just clasped with Barack's. A woman friend of mine who was standing next to me saw me shake hands with the guy. I turned to her and said "He just shook hands with Barack," to which she responded..."Hey, give it up." We then shook hands. She then turned to the person next to her and shook hands. This chain of hand shakes went on for about five or six more persons.

I did not know the tall guy in front of me; he is white, I am black. But at the moment we shook hands, I felt some solidarity with this stranger, consummated by a handshake and signifying some unspoken agreement presumably about Barack Obama and his core message of UNITY!

I call this hand-shake scenario the "BAM" because, descriptively, it takes a bit of Obama's name and it's the sound of a collision, of People Coming Together!  

I thought of this kind of "passion" the other night as I watched and waited for the lunar eclipse.  It seems that others had been waiting for a great moment too. We had been warned that this new leader was coming.  A prophet even said look to the skies!

"We are the ones we've been waiting for'" indeed!

Note how much the "leader" in this video resembles Obama. Same ears, same round head, same collarless shirt...the only difference is that Obama is black and this other leader was "orange". Coincidence?

Media outlets label Obama supporters as 'cult-like'

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Media_outl ets_label_Obama_supporters_as_0220.html

Hillary Clinton's campaign may be focusing its attacks on Senator Barack Obama by suggesting that the candidate is plagiarizing his speeches. But to the media, another issue may be just as important: the strong base of supporters that Obama has built up in the course of his campaign. And many press outlets seem convinced that Obama's following is less of a movement and more like a cult.

A Tuesday night broadcast on ABC News' Nightline offered an example of behavior it implied might be 'cult-like.' Show host Terry Moran started out the report calling Obama's base "a massive and fervent following." Correspondent David Wright then referred to the supporters as a "congregation," and proceeded to compare Obama events to Bruce Springsteen concerts, and Obama's starpower to that exerted by The Beatles or Hannah Montana...

Nightline hasn't been alone in advancing this theme.

Last Friday, CNN's Wolf Blitzer also intoned that Obama supporters might be "a little too passionate." Correspondent Carol Costello started out her report suggesting that critics of Obama believe he has started "a cult of personality."

Some humorists have had fun with the suggestions that Obama's base is cult-like. Wonkette's Ken Layne has joked that Obama is a witch doctor who has "the ability to hypnotize young voters."

But the charges of having a "cult-like" base of supporters have taken a more negative tone in place. The LA Times' Stein warned that "Obamaphilia has gotten creepy." And Slate's David Plotz went as far as to suggest Obama's manner of speech was "fascistic."

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And Obama Wept -Jake Tapper ABC News

www.drudge.com/news/103933/and-obama-wep t

Inspiration is nice. But some folks seem to be getting out of hand.

It's as if Tom Daschle descended from on high saying, "Be not afraid; for behold I bring you good tidings of great joy which shall be to all the people: for there is born to you this day in the city of Chicago a Savior, who is Barack the Democrat."

Obama supporter Kathleen Geier writes that she's "getting increasingly weirded out by some of Obama's supporters. On listservs I'm on, some people who should know better - hard-bitten, not-so-young cynics, even - are gushing about Barack...

Describing various encounters with Obama supporters, she writes, "Excuse me, but this sounds more like a cult than a political campaign. The language used here is the language of evangelical Christianity - the Obama volunteers speak of 'coming to Obama' in the same way born-again Christians talk about 'coming to Jesus.'...So I say, we should all get a grip, stop all this unseemly mooning over Barack, see him and the political landscape he is a part of in a cooler, clearer, and more realistic light, and get to work."

Joe Klein, writing at Time, notes "something just a wee bit creepy about the mass messianism" he sees in Obama's Super Tuesday speech.

"We are the ones we've been waiting for," Obama said. "This time can be different because this campaign for the presidency of the United States of America is different. It's different not because of me. It's different because of you."

Says Klein: "That is not just maddeningly vague but also disingenuous: the campaign is entirely about Obama and his ability to inspire. Rather than focusing on any specific issue or cause -- other than an amorphous desire for change -- the message is becoming dangerously self-referential. The Obama campaign all too often is about how wonderful the Obama campaign is. "

Then there's MSNBC's Chris Matthews who tells Felix Gillette in the New York Observer, "I've been following politics since I was about 5. I've never seen anything like this. This is bigger than Kennedy. [Obama] comes along, and he seems to have the answers. This is the New Testament."

And behold, Obama met them and greeted them. And they came up and took hold of His feet and worshiped Him.

The Holy Season of Lent is upon us. Can Obama worshippers try to give up their Helter-Skelter cult-ish qualities for a few weeks?

At least until Easter, or the Pennsylvania primary, whichever comes first...

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Lets put Barack Obama through the "Is he a dangerous cult leader" check list and see how he does ! :)

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CULT WARNING SIGNS

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   Potentially unsafe groups or leaders "come off very nice at first, they go for vulnerable people who are looking for answers, lonely, what you'd call 'normal people.' They're very good at what they do and can get people to believe anything. You might think you'd never get taken in, but don't bet on it. "
    -- Margaret Singer, Ph.D.

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By Rick Ross, Expert Consultant and Intervention Specialist

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Warning signs of a potentially unsafe group/leader.

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  No tolerance for questions or critical inquiry.{CHECK!}

  Unreasonable fear about the outside world, such as impending catastrophe, evil conspiracies and persecutions.{CHECK!}

   There is no legitimate reason to leave, former followers are always wrong in leaving, negative or even evil.{CHECK!}

   Former members often relate the same stories of abuse and reflect a similar pattern of grievances.{CHECK!}

   There are records, books, news articles, or television programs that document the extremes of the group/leader.{CHECK!}

   Followers feel they can never be "good enough" for the group/leader.{CHECK!}

   The group/leader is always right.{CHECK!}{CHECK!}{CHECK!}

  The group/leader is the exclusive means of knowing "truth" or receiving validation, no other process of discovery is really acceptable or credible.{CHECK!}{CHECK!}{CHECK!}

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Warning signs regarding people involved in/with a potentially unsafe group/leader.

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   Extreme obsessiveness regarding the group/leader resulting in the exclusion of almost every practical consideration.{CHECK!}

  Individual identity, the group, the leader and/or God as distinct and separate categories of existence become increasingly blurred. Instead, in the follower's mind these identities become substantially and increasingly fused--as that person's involvement with the group/leader continues and deepens.{CHECK!}

  Whenever the group/leader is criticized or questioned it is characterized as "persecution".{CHECK!}{CHECK!}{CHECK!}

 Uncharacteristically stilted and seemingly programmed conversation and mannerisms, cloning of the group/leader in personal behavior.{CHECK!}

  Dependency upon the group/leader for problem solving, solutions, and definitions without meaningful reflective thought. A seeming inability to think independently or analyze situations without group/leader involvement.{CHECK!}{CHECK!}{CHECK!}

   Hyperactivity centered on the group/leader agenda, which seems to supercede any personal goals or individual interests.{CHECK!}

   A dramatic loss of  sense of humor.{CHECK!}{CHECK!}{CHECK!}{CHECK!}{CHECK!}{CHECK!}{CHECK!}

   Increasing isolation from family and old friends unless they demonstrate an interest in the group/leader.{CHECK!}

  Anything the group/leader does can be justified no matter how harsh or harmful.{CHECK!}{CHECK!}{CHECK!}{CHECK!}{CHECK!}{CHECK!}{CHECK!}

  Non followers are at best-considered negative or worse evil and under bad influences. They can not be trusted.{CHECK!}{CHECK!}{CHECK!}{CHECK!}

Yup, it's a cult alright...

Kick some "False Gods" Ass tonight Hillary!

For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness;
whose end shall be according to their works.
(2 Corinthians 11: 13 -16 KJV)



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More like the anti-Christ (1.50 / 2)

Really would the messiah be buds with Rezko?


by sinclair on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 08:56:15 PM EST

What freaks me out (2.00 / 1)

is that video. No not because it reminds me of Obama. I think that is SILLY.

It is because my a relative of my g/f was one of those followers. I think they we called "Heavens Gate" or something like that.

Her relative could possibly be one of those bodies you see.


Washington Woman
theocracywatch.org
EENR Blog
by kevin22262 on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 09:02:25 PM EST

Oh, so sorry. (2.00 / 1)


by Shazone on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 09:07:29 PM EST
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I need to proof read more (none / 0)

geeez


Washington Woman
theocracywatch.org
EENR Blog
by kevin22262 on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 09:33:30 PM EST
[ Parent ]

wow! (none / 0)

ain't that weird!


Offend the Media - Vote for Hillary!
by Seymour Glass on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 10:33:28 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Is Barack Obama the Messiah? Part One (none / 0)

  monk chanting is not eerie - it's good calming music.  


by dogman on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 09:06:29 PM EST

Ah, that's a big NO! (none / 0)

He's not even a disciple in my book!


by Shazone on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 09:06:46 PM EST

i touched the hem of his garment... (1.66 / 6)

...and my plantar warts went away.


by campskunk on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 09:20:26 PM EST

Re: i touched the hem of his garment... (2.00 / 1)

Ha! Your ribald sense of humor cracks me up almost as much as Rush Limbaugh's.  Perhaps you are Limbaugh?


Go back to Hussein Texas
by gobacktotexas on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 09:45:44 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: i touched the hem of his garment... (2.00 / 1)

OH- THE WIT ON YOU!


Offend the Media - Vote for Hillary!
by Seymour Glass on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 10:10:03 PM EST
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Barack, (2.00 / 1)

you see how the crowd hems you in, yet you ask who touched you?


Another Hillary Supporter for Obama!
by Beltway Dem on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 10:09:49 PM EST
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I'm glad I'm immune (2.00 / 1)

I might be one a fews that are damn lucky.
Hill preaches me well.
by JoeySky18 on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 09:33:40 PM EST

Is Seymour Glass an Unoriginal Bore? (1.66 / 3)

Actually, yes.  


Go back to Hussein Texas
by gobacktotexas on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 09:38:09 PM EST

Re: Is Seymour Glass an Unoriginal Bore? (2.00 / 1)

No comment needed.  Res ipsa loquitor.


by ReillyDiefenbach on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 09:41:14 PM EST
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Re: Is Seymour Glass an Unoriginal Bore? (none / 0)

MY GOD, READING YOU IS LIKE FINDING COLE PORTER REBORN!


Offend the Media - Vote for Hillary!
by Seymour Glass on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 10:12:04 PM EST
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Cherubim and Seraphim (2.00 / 1)

singing in endless praise!


Another Hillary Supporter for Obama!
by Beltway Dem on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 10:01:34 PM EST

Seymour I mean this. (2.00 / 3)

this is the diary that is just plain stupid.

you are either playing to the narrative (which I suspect)

or

you have truly lost it friend.

i hope it is the former.


BHO/HRC 08
by omar little on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 10:07:55 PM EST

Re: Seymour I mean this. (none / 0)

A dramatic loss of sense of humor.{CHECK!}{CHECK!}{CHECK!}{CHECK!}{C HECK!}{CHECK!}{CHECK!}


Offend the Media - Vote for Hillary!
by Seymour Glass on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 10:25:02 PM EST
[ Parent ]

More proof: (none / 0)

"They were astonished at his teaching because he spoke with authority."

Luke 4:32


Another Hillary Supporter for Obama!
by Beltway Dem on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 10:12:28 PM EST

Let it go, man ... (2.00 / 1)

Didn't you see Senator Clinton clasp Senator Obama's hand tonight saying how honored she was to be with him on the podium debating (and in a very civil way, I must add)?

Besides, the Obamamessiah website is such old news. And Christopher, the owner, is chicken as well. I started posting comments there and guess what? Suddenly the comments section for each post was closed! LOL!

Here is a sample:

This site is very well done. Reaction that I have seen range from 'scary' to 'funny'.

FWIW, here is my reaction.

First, it is good to have a place where one can find many excerpts of Obama's campaign from which one can then go to the original for context without which interpretation is totally fucked up. Take for example, the tagline for this blog.

"... a light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany ... and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for Obama" - Barack Obama Lebanon, New Hampshire.
January 7, 2008.

It takes a whole different meaning when one realizes that Obama was addressing himself to "Independents" and with a sort of tongue-in-cheek attitude.

Secondly, one must realize that six-in-ten people  in the U.S. say religion plays a very important role in their lives. It is therefore not surprising that the political discourse would follow that trend. Religiosity resonates with people as well as with the politicians. (I myself am an atheist.) Insomuch as politicians succeed in keeping to the state/church separation, there is nothing wrong in that.

Thirdly, on Obama as presidential candidate. If one considers the legacy of the previous administration of which both the Clintons have been a part, and considers this [link removed] and this [link removed] in particular, it is about time that there be a change in the course that this country has taken.

On a final and different note, I was talking to a friend the other day about this site. He is convinced that this site has been put up by the Obama campaign to eventually counter the "Obama-not-christian" line of attack that is sure to come from the Rethuglicans very soon. If that is so, then what can I say? Yet another brilliant move by the Obama campaign!

Senator Clinton was very good tonight. And so was Senator Obama. I'm still supporting Senator Obama but came out tonight with a very good impression of Senator Clinton as well (which had not been the case until now). See, I've even removed links above that led to bad stuff about her.

One of them will get the nomination and the other will support him/her. They both will ask their supporters to come together as they will have. And all those nasty postings will become superfluous and ridiculous. It's time for you to get with the flow. Time to leave the hate behind and start working towards a better tomorrow.

Get out, Seymour, for a breath of fresh air. I'm sure you need it. Here's hoping you succeed in making the transition. Take care, man!


by Freedom on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 10:17:20 PM EST

Re: Let it go, man ... (none / 0)

Correction: links removed led to bad stuff done by the current administration, not by HRC. Just for accuracy.


by Freedom on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 10:29:43 PM EST
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Its a sad but important day (none / 0)

when one realizes that most people are as dumb and truly uncomprehending as Carp.

Not bad, just dim.


Offend the Media - Vote for Hillary!
by Seymour Glass on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 10:17:23 PM EST

someones got some dopey friends (none / 0)

"I was talking to a friend the other day about this site. He is convinced that this site has been put up by the Obama campaign to eventually counter the "Obama-not-christian" line of attack that is sure to come from the Rethuglicans very soon. If that is so, then what can I say? Yet another brilliant move by the Obama campaign!"

either dumb or very "religious" obama style....

though obviously to be one you must be the other...

but not visa versa.

if you catch my drift...


Offend the Media - Vote for Hillary!
by Seymour Glass on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 10:31:32 PM EST

Re: someones got some dopey friends (none / 0)

Hey, didn't you used to have an ABO in your sigline? Believe it or not, I've seen so much crazy here in the past week that you're starting to look like one of the sane ones, Seymour.

But only by comparison.


Visit Election Inspection for analysis, polls, and predictions!
by X Stryker on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 10:38:55 PM EST
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Re: someones got some dopey friends (none / 0)

I think it is DUMB to qualify religious people as 'dumb'. Some of our greatest thinkers and scientists have been very religious.

But whatever makes you tick, Seymour. Me, I think you are in great need of some love (wink! wink!)

So here goes: A BIG HUG TO YOU! (I mean it.)


by Freedom on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 10:39:18 PM EST
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Listen to Michelle (none / 0)

HERE.

She is anything but ... all those nasty things you wrote. Do keep an open mind ... please!


by Freedom on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 10:32:00 PM EST

Re: Is Barack Obama the Messiah? Part One (none / 0)

Our Obama, who art in Washington,
Hallowed be thy name.
Thy presidency come; thy will be done,
In America as it is in Chicago.
Give us this day our daily hope,
And forgive us our doubts,
As we forgive those who doubt against you.
Lead us not into hopelessness,
But deliver us from cynicism.
For the hope and the unity and the change are yours,
Now and forever.
by domma on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 11:10:51 PM EST

Re: Is Barack Obama the Messiah? Part One (none / 0)

Seymour, I think that many in the left are developing a tendency to mimic the hosts of right wing radio in the way that they demonize and overly simplify. I do think that someone has to help keep this risky behaviour in check before it comes back and causes serious damage in the efforts to win back majorities and the White House.

Plagiarism?


by dannyinla on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 11:32:49 PM EST

Re: Is Barack Obama the Messiah? Part One (none / 0)

According to this Obama supporter, Barack Obama is not the messiah.  According to all my Obama supporting friends, he is not the messiah.  Can we move on now or is demeaning political opponents Republican-style the new trend here?


by Meng Bomin on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 11:45:50 PM EST

Re: Is Barack Obama the Messiah? Part One (none / 0)

Again, the majority of my friends and I didn't see much in it.  I think you may be making a lot of hay about a rather loud minority of Obama supporters.


by Meng Bomin on Fri Feb 22, 2008 at 01:36:35 AM EST
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Re: Is Barack Obama the Messiah? Part One (none / 0)

Are all Obama supports cultists? I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the vast majority of Obama supports don't meet any of the criteria you put forward.


"Don't let it end this way; tell them I said something." -the last words of Pancho Villa
by shef on Fri Feb 22, 2008 at 01:53:15 AM EST

Re: Is Barack Obama the Messiah? Part One (none / 0)

Why should I read this diary when I can get the same thing on redstate.com?  Occasionally I see what the other side is up to, and when they're not making sexist digs at Hillary Clinton they are mocking Obama as a cult leader.  Sad to see that happening on a Democratic blog.


by Skaje on Fri Feb 22, 2008 at 05:33:29 AM EST


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